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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 22:02:55 GMT -5
"Oh! have you read Lord of the Flies? Its like that but they are just boys..It just makes you wonder why people try to enforce the strictest of laws, but sometimes dont even follow them themselves. Primal tendencies are so engrained into us that being primped and trained and raised in the strictest of fashions couldnt have saved them. There was a group that was in a private school, and you would think they would be the most behaved, yet they were the first to condemn and they are the ones that actually killed one of the other children.." She shook her head and cleared the mental image that brought on. " Japanese import? I read some manga.." Alicia giggled. "Not even in the same catagory I know.."
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Post by canary on Apr 20, 2007 22:12:03 GMT -5
"Yes, actuallly I have read it. It's very similar but different, with the addition of the females it really brings a completely different aspect to it. Sexism is a main trait of several boys in the story, while slightly ironically, most get brutally murdered by females. It shows that no one is truly safe from the primalities of life." He smiled brightly, excited to be speaking about such things to this girl. "Manga is okay too, they actually have a Battle Royale manga, although it's not nearly as good."
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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 22:22:03 GMT -5
" Really? Well knowing me, I will probably read the book, then delve into the manga. I have a habit of trying to relate the ideas and see how well the writers stuck to the main storyline. That is why I try never to read a book before I see a movie, or I become one of the worst critics." She smiled at a memory. " My family hated watching movies with me if I had already read the book. They always told me to keep my opinions to myself..And I actually try not to watch the movie at all if I had read the book. It ruins the best part of books. Only you can create the image that the author portrays the character to be. And once you have the image , its hard to let go of the idea of that person looking that way in your mind. Or at least it is to me...I hate people trying to correct my ideas..especially when I am fond of that idea. As for most of the guys being brutally murdered by the females..I can believe that.." Alicia grinned from ear to ear. " You know girls can tend to be hormonal and easily offended." At that, she laughed out loud at her own little joke. It trailed off into silence. "Still..it does make since, I think."
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Post by canary on Apr 20, 2007 22:30:19 GMT -5
Vanden smiled brightly. "You're exactly right. I often picture a character vastly different from what the author does, or what they can get in an actor or actress, and after I get their ideas implanted into mine, I get slightly dissapointed." He stopped and thought for a moment. "The girls in this book, while extremely vulnerable, represent females very well. One scene in particular really gets me. In an abandoned lighthouse, 7 girls took refuge, refusing to trust any of the boys in the class. When one boy, well liked by several girls is injured, they decide to take him in, and one girl, who is slightly damaged by the whole ordeal, attempts to poison him. In confusion, another girl proceeds to eat the poisoned food, killing her and beginning the biggest bloodbath in the entire book. It's what makes the book vastly amazing." He pursed his lips. "Sorry I talk so much..."
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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 22:36:07 GMT -5
"Wow.." Alicia started to chew on her bottom lip as she thought about the situation. " It really emphasizes how misconceptions can lead to problems. Such as the girl misinterpreting the situation and trying in her own way, albeit the wrong way, to resolve the problem. Interesting..." Alicia looked over at Vanden. "I talk too much too..But it is a great way to meet good people. Today, for instance. This is the most intellegent and interesting conversation I can remember having in ages. I thank you for that. Truely.. " She whispered the last word as she thought she saw the book they were looking for. She had almost forgotten about it over the conversation. She shook her head in disbelief that she had met someone with so many opinions so like her own.
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Post by canary on Apr 20, 2007 22:50:43 GMT -5
Vanden practically beamed. "Yeah, same to you. I mean, everyone's "smart" I suppose, but not many people are really..I don't know, deep and evaluating, I suppose. Thanks to you too." He sighed happily, realizing maybe this school year wouldn't be as horrid as he'd thought. He suddenly spotted the book, it's delightfully simplistic cover: all red, with the silhouettes of a boy and a girl, the boy slightly taller, and a vaguely noticeable jacket, donned on the girl. He plucked it up quickly. "Here it is." He smiled.
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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 22:58:48 GMT -5
Alicia heard him sigh. "Hmm..nice cover. Not too overly dramatic, and you say its good? Guess you cant judge a book by its cover." Alicia stopped. Looked at the book, at Vanden, and back at the book."Oh that was so horribly corny wasnt it? Bringing back an overused saying.I didnt even realize it before I heard myself say it. " She curled her arm up and laid the new book on top of the Peirs book she was reading before. "Deep and evaluating. I think sometimes I just look to much into things that should just be a simple pleasure, you know. I cant take things for what they are. I have to question, and theorize until my head hurts. I would like to think that sometimes the thoughts that run through my head would make sense to someone other than myself. But so many people just shrug off my ideas, and dismiss me as a lunatic of sorts." She shrugged. " I guess its why I dont get along with a lot of people. It isnt fun to hang around with people who cant even understand your thought process. How can they say they get the idea if they dont mess with it, question it, or at least doubt it in some way?" She leaned her head to the side as she asked. "I dont understand that at all.."
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Post by canary on Apr 20, 2007 23:07:37 GMT -5
"I believe that in a way, I'm the same. I often question things mentally, if not verbally, because I'm usually extremely shy. I can't stand ignorance, it's the thing I hate most out of everything in the entire world..which is why I don't make too many friends. Or keep them, rather." He shrugged a bit, and a puzzled look danced across his face. "So..now what?" He blushed as he said it, feeling strange as he said it, and wondering if he was making this whole thing seem a bit formulaic by asking such a question. Once again, he absently tugged at a hair on his head.
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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 23:15:11 GMT -5
Alicia gave him a smile. "Well, they say ignorance is bliss.But the person that said it obviously didnt know that it is bliss for the ignorant and not for any one else." She thought about it for a moment. "Yes, that does make it hard to get along with people. And it seems to be a curse throughout most of the human race. But even worse than being ignorant, is being ignorant without the willingness to alleviate the fact of being ignorant. I will admit that I do not know everything..Hardly that..But I have such a want to gain knowledge that sometimes it gets me into trouble..Well, I think I will start this book, seeing as how much you have gotten me interested in it..and how about after I am done we can discuss what we do and dont like about the book? I am sure that most of our opinions will be the same. But I am also sure that the parts that we dont agree on will be just as interesting, if not more so, to discuss. What do you think?"
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Post by canary on Apr 20, 2007 23:25:38 GMT -5
Vanden beamed."Yes, that'd be perfect. I'd always wanted someone to discuss such things with. Will you be leaving then?" As if by chance, he yawned and stretched back. "I'm kind of tired..all this philosophical discussion has gotten me spent." He winked at her playfully.
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Post by alicia on Apr 20, 2007 23:31:15 GMT -5
Alicia laughed. " Now dont start yawning! Yawning is contageous you know??" She stifled back a yawn of her own. "Now see what you've done!" She laughed and clutched her books to her side. " Yes, I think I will take my leave now..but not before I check these out.." She said as she looked around for the front desk. " Ah, philosophical discussion. No better way to spend ones day, then exercising the mind.." She smiled at Vanden. "I can't wait! See you later, I hope?" She sort of made it a question, but didnt want to seem hopelessly pathetic. "Well, bye!" She waved at him as she made her way to the front counter. "My what a conversation!' She thought excitedly to herself. She checked out the books and couldnt resist looking back over her shoulder at him. She waved once more as she walked out the door headed to her dorm. She stepped outside and sighed. She smiled contentedly and had to force herself not to skip. She even hummed a little tune.
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